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Uh...Can Time exist without Motion? Maximum Low-entropy
topic posted Sat, June 28, 2008 - 12:27 PM by offline Tom Key

Ever since Georgescu-Roegen introduced -- more, he physiologically implanted it under the skin -- the concept of ENTROPY into economics, we have had to pay attention. Pay and pay. Of course that's entropic -- it is the exaction of existence, the paying and the pain. Entropically, more is taken than is given.

It is not a mystery that everything gets Colder, Slower, Darker, and Older; it is Law. The reality fixed by the structure of thermodynamic existence.

Of course, the key to this one-way vector is the "older" part -- the irreversibility of Time. Time is functioning as the growing medium of Entropy. We can variously make wine and vinegar out of grapes, but we cannot make grapes out of wine.

We have to wonder, however -- observe the rising bread of mystery -- whether Time could exist without motion, at maximum entropy. Mathematically, we have not shown that Time exists independently. Clearly, we have conservation of energy, but not of Time. Even in a low-entropy state, would there be confusion, or even a gradient, between yesterday and tomorrow?

The point here, is What is the point of a Big Bang? Was there a high-entropy state behind the low-entropy origin of our Universe?

And may I suggest, with irony of course, that there is Peace through Entropy. For ALL of us who decry religious wars, is there salvation in Physics? In a world populated with men and women dreaming of a Heaven for themselves and a Hell for the rest of us, if only all aspirant bombers and child-murderers would pause in their endeavors, to explain What God would reward them for destroying what has been "created" in and over such a brief and enduring Time?

4 comments:

  1. So, if all is entropic, where did Life come from? The strategy of "defeating" entropy through the use of reproduction.

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  2. Tony Wright, author of "Left in the Dark" presents insights into an epigenetic theory of brain evolution. A bit too much about early primate diet, for my taste. And having lived with Stone Age people, it never ceases to amaze me to hear his invocation of a previous "revenance" of consciousness, as if humans used to be more concious, as if we have decayed, as if our brains are devolving. Interesting.

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  3. But let us be clear: For mathematical purposes, for solving the "equation" of Energy with respect to mass and movement, that is, Time, E=mc2 is more than simply a statement of the equivalence between energy and matter. The equation says more about Time than about Energy or Matter. In essence, Time is the variable, the unknown, in a universe of Constants. Time is warped, fractured, iced, and oiled. It peels off, it stops. Without Motion, of course, there is no Time. We stumble into our destiny.

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